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Separation of Church and State


The first amendment to the US constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". When you hear people say Separation of Church and State means that Government is protected from Religion and the opinions of Religious people, remember:

  1. The Separation of Church and State is not in the Constitution.

  2. The Constitution does protect the Church from the State.

  3. In public debates , all ideas and all people are welcome - even Religious Ones.

  4. All 50 US State Constitutions originally and still do mention God.


The constitution, amendments and most of the laws enacted over the first 200+ years of our Republic were guided by and an extension of the Christian faith and virtues. It is what it is. If we look over the last 5,000 years to the basis of any government, we always see the hand of faith in a greater power determining laws dictating how to justly govern. If it was not GOD and the Judeo Christian faith that permeated the drafting of the US Constitution, then what was it? My view is that the US Constitution and most of the last 246 years is largely a very positive progressive step building on the last 5,000 years of human history. The Constitution is not static. It includes an elaborate process prescribing how to interpret and change itself. This process has been brilliantly demonstrated over the last 246 years, less effectively so recently.


In recent years we have seen strong challenges to both the Constitution and religion. The new progressive view comes from highly educated advocates that want to break with the crown jewel of the last 5,000 years of human history; their replacement for the Constitution is Social Justice & Democratic Socialism(see Definitions and Final Thoughts below) publicly implemented by idealistic political power. These socialists believe that mankind, themselves and everybody else, no longer need religious beliefs guided by religious faith and virtues. After all, look at all our bright new technological advances; we can just solve any problem that comes up. The First Amendment grants us more than Freedom of Religion, it also grants us Freedom of Speech. Science like the Constitution is constantly slightly changing and Free Speech in the Free Market of ideas is essential to a successful best outcome. Every individual idea must have the freedom to exist and be heard by anyone choosing to listen, Freedom of Speech.


Socialism is not driven by Government nor should it be addressed in the Constitution. The Constitution does address fairness and equality as it should and must. On the other hand, Religion does have a lot to say about Socialism. The Church does practice Social Justice, Democratic Socialism and how to implement Equity. So any separation of Church and State would also separate Socialism from Government, not a good idea. Over the last 240+ years through thoughtful change and legislation the Constitution has allowed the establishment of Socialism in the form of a very limited Command Economy(see Definitions below) supported by taxes on the unlimited, but vulnerable, Free Market. To understand where the radically progressive liberals want to take us - they want a 100% command economy or, at least, expand it far beyond where it is today. The expansion of the Command Economy is not possible without violating the Constitution due to the fairness and equal requirement among other things. To implement Democratic Socialism under the Constitution would require a 2/3 Democracy vote to change the constitution. The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.


The truth is best way to achieve Democratic Socialism by strengthening the Church and not separating Church and State.



Final Thoughts


Why does the US Constitution Not Mention GOD?

Unlike the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution contains no reference to God. ... So, again, why no invocation of God in the second major founding document? The threefold answer lies in the stated purposes of the Constitution, its religious neutrality, and the theory of government it embodies. That is not to say that GOD had nothing to do with it. http://WhatWouldYouSay.org


One Person Says

W. all agree that there shouldn’t be a government religion. Those have been common throughout history and America stands for the idea that government shouldn’t force you to believe anything or punish you because of what you believe. So in a sense, we do want church and state to be separate. But does that mean the constitution prohibits religious organizations, or even religious people, from talking about what is happening in government and culture? http://WhatWouldYouSay.org


Definitions


Command Economy

An Overview. ... Alternatively, a command economy is organized by a centralized government that owns most, if not all, businesses and whose officials direct all the factors of production. China, North Korea, and the former Soviet Union are all examples of command economies.


Democratic Socialism

Democratic socialism is defined as having a socialist economy in which the means of production are socially and collectively owned or controlled, alongside a liberal democratic political system of government. Democratic socialists reject most self-described socialist states and Marxism–Leninism


Social Justice

Social justice is the view that everyone deserves equal economic, political and social rights and opportunities. ... Social justice also imposes on each of us a personal responsibility to work with others to design and continually perfect our institutions as tools for personal and social development


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Tom Johnson, PopieTom
Tom Johnson, PopieTom
19 févr. 2022

Thanks again for publishing your article on the separation of church and state. Ironically, this weekend is the celebration of Constitution Day in Mexico. Constitution day was actually Saturday, 5 February but because it fell on a weekend, Monday is a national holiday. For that reason the yard is closed, which is extremely convenient as it has allowed me to research more about the topic without having a conscience about not being at work. I’ve been able to spend a day on my iPad doing a lot of reading. I’ve always said that one of the main reasons for writing is to consolidate one’s thoughts, but also to stimulate learning in others. You have definitely knocked it out of the…

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Tom Johnson, PopieTom
Tom Johnson, PopieTom
07 févr. 2022

Government has to be the bad cop enforcing equality of opportunity. The good cop role is Church & Charity working together in the Free Market to deliver Social Justice and Progressive Equity. If government replaces Church & Charity must be viewed as establishing a State Religion, which violates the Frst Amendment of the Constitution.

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